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		<title>By: NAGR Staff</title>
		<link>http://nationalgunrights.org/blog/?p=253&#038;cpage=2#comment-13921</link>
		<dc:creator>NAGR Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as proper credit is given the the National Association for Gun Rights, go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as proper credit is given the the National Association for Gun Rights, go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cary Blakelock</title>
		<link>http://nationalgunrights.org/blog/?p=253&#038;cpage=2#comment-13903</link>
		<dc:creator>Cary Blakelock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I trust you would not have reservations if I put up a part of this site on my univeristy blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I trust you would not have reservations if I put up a part of this site on my univeristy blog?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://nationalgunrights.org/blog/?p=253&#038;cpage=2#comment-6412</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole Homeland Security having 3 agencies under its wing, then having IRS, BATFE, FBI Etc. Etc. Etc. will never work! We need to quit working separately and do it like the Brits: MI-5 eqauls every agency above State &amp; local that operates within the continent of Britain and MI-6 that operates every agency outside. That way nobody is competing for anything but one budget, training etc. Until that time, we will continue to have to put up with this childish inter/intra service rivalry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole Homeland Security having 3 agencies under its wing, then having IRS, BATFE, FBI Etc. Etc. Etc. will never work! We need to quit working separately and do it like the Brits: MI-5 eqauls every agency above State &amp; local that operates within the continent of Britain and MI-6 that operates every agency outside. That way nobody is competing for anything but one budget, training etc. Until that time, we will continue to have to put up with this childish inter/intra service rivalry.</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://nationalgunrights.org/blog/?p=253&#038;cpage=2#comment-5113</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bama &amp; his Lemmings need a group of “law enforcement” people who know
how to and not to worry about the legality of what they do. They lie
to the courts, police depts., etc. with no fear of being blamed if any
thing goes wrong. “Daddy Obama” will step up and defend his Lemmings
to make sure they will operate as his private police force. At this
point, they will act at Obama’s direction.william from a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ccnaexams.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ccna practice exams&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bama &amp; his Lemmings need a group of “law enforcement” people who know<br />
how to and not to worry about the legality of what they do. They lie<br />
to the courts, police depts., etc. with no fear of being blamed if any<br />
thing goes wrong. “Daddy Obama” will step up and defend his Lemmings<br />
to make sure they will operate as his private police force. At this<br />
point, they will act at Obama’s direction.william from a <a href="http://www.ccnaexams.com" rel="nofollow">ccna practice exams</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Ritz</title>
		<link>http://nationalgunrights.org/blog/?p=253&#038;cpage=2#comment-5023</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Ritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankie B.

  Sorry, don&#039;t usually post, but when you wrote: 

&quot;I side 1000% with the FBI and CIA anytime.  They both take the oath to support the Consitution(sic),&quot; 

I just had to pipe up. 

I wonder, which part of the constitution were they upholding when the CIA originally developed Osama Bin Laden as an asset in Afghanistan just a few decades ago?  Maybe Osama turned on them and they just didn&#039;t see it coming?  If so, I&#039;d call the CIA incompetent at the least: to have a prized asset in a long-fought turf war go rogue on you.  Then, long after he became public enemy #1, the CIA visited him the hospital just weeks before he staged the most elaborate attack on US soil ever conceived.  How is it that more than a year before the attacks the FBI, NSA, and CIA said that they were &#039;listening into every conversation&#039; Osama Bin Laden had, but then after the attacks they said...&#039;oops...we didn&#039;t know it was coming.&#039;  That, to me, is the kind of excuse you can fertilize a field with.  You should look into a little more of these organizations&#039; dealings because breaking eggs to make an omelet isn&#039;t in the constitution.  

All this BATFE bashing is probably rightly justified, but puhleeese, the FBI and CIA have developed very strange ways of interpreting their oaths too.  They are fair fodder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankie B.</p>
<p>  Sorry, don&#8217;t usually post, but when you wrote: </p>
<p>&#8220;I side 1000% with the FBI and CIA anytime.  They both take the oath to support the Consitution(sic),&#8221; </p>
<p>I just had to pipe up. </p>
<p>I wonder, which part of the constitution were they upholding when the CIA originally developed Osama Bin Laden as an asset in Afghanistan just a few decades ago?  Maybe Osama turned on them and they just didn&#8217;t see it coming?  If so, I&#8217;d call the CIA incompetent at the least: to have a prized asset in a long-fought turf war go rogue on you.  Then, long after he became public enemy #1, the CIA visited him the hospital just weeks before he staged the most elaborate attack on US soil ever conceived.  How is it that more than a year before the attacks the FBI, NSA, and CIA said that they were &#8216;listening into every conversation&#8217; Osama Bin Laden had, but then after the attacks they said&#8230;&#8217;oops&#8230;we didn&#8217;t know it was coming.&#8217;  That, to me, is the kind of excuse you can fertilize a field with.  You should look into a little more of these organizations&#8217; dealings because breaking eggs to make an omelet isn&#8217;t in the constitution.  </p>
<p>All this BATFE bashing is probably rightly justified, but puhleeese, the FBI and CIA have developed very strange ways of interpreting their oaths too.  They are fair fodder.</p>
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		<title>By: ccna certification test</title>
		<link>http://nationalgunrights.org/blog/?p=253&#038;cpage=2#comment-4991</link>
		<dc:creator>ccna certification test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bama &amp; his Lemmings need a group of “law enforcement” people who know
how to and not to worry about the legality of what they do. They lie
to the courts, police depts., etc. with no fear of being blamed if any
thing goes wrong. “Daddy Obama” will step up and defend his Lemmings
to make sure they will operate as his private police force. At this
point, they will act at Obama’s direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bama &amp; his Lemmings need a group of “law enforcement” people who know<br />
how to and not to worry about the legality of what they do. They lie<br />
to the courts, police depts., etc. with no fear of being blamed if any<br />
thing goes wrong. “Daddy Obama” will step up and defend his Lemmings<br />
to make sure they will operate as his private police force. At this<br />
point, they will act at Obama’s direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://nationalgunrights.org/blog/?p=253&#038;cpage=2#comment-4834</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If Congress wants to get serious about law enforcement it should abolish the BATFE and leave real police work to the FBI.&quot;
Then these criminals would be given jobs in other government agencies to wreak their vile agenda there. Maybe there are already some of them over at CPSC preparing to &quot;SWAT&quot; people selling old toys at yard sales, or failing to dispose of the toys in approved HAZMAT disposal facilities.
Think I&#039;m kidding? Even the USDA has its own machine gun brandishing and attack helicopter equipped SWAT team.
I was arrested (kidnapped) on private property on a bogus county warrant by a federal firewood guard of the USDA Forest Service! No actual warrant existed - he used the jail computer to print up an unsigned fake warrant after he clapped me in jail. I was released when I filed a petition for habeas corpus. The county &quot;judge&quot; (unsworn woman lawyer) did make sure to hold me for the ten day limit established by the US supreme court (either release the petitioner or hold habeas hearing within ten days of filing).
The national hero/god A. Lincoln established the principle that bayonets and lead overrule moldy scraps of parchment. The constitutions are trundled out when they do not threaten the status quo, but ignored when they get in the way of the agenda. Still, for common crime, they are better than what the rest of the world has.
Our politicos DO uphold their oath to &quot;support and defend&quot; the constitution - it is supported on a pedestal and defended by bulletproof glass and armed guards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If Congress wants to get serious about law enforcement it should abolish the BATFE and leave real police work to the FBI.&#8221;<br />
Then these criminals would be given jobs in other government agencies to wreak their vile agenda there. Maybe there are already some of them over at CPSC preparing to &#8220;SWAT&#8221; people selling old toys at yard sales, or failing to dispose of the toys in approved HAZMAT disposal facilities.<br />
Think I&#8217;m kidding? Even the USDA has its own machine gun brandishing and attack helicopter equipped SWAT team.<br />
I was arrested (kidnapped) on private property on a bogus county warrant by a federal firewood guard of the USDA Forest Service! No actual warrant existed &#8211; he used the jail computer to print up an unsigned fake warrant after he clapped me in jail. I was released when I filed a petition for habeas corpus. The county &#8220;judge&#8221; (unsworn woman lawyer) did make sure to hold me for the ten day limit established by the US supreme court (either release the petitioner or hold habeas hearing within ten days of filing).<br />
The national hero/god A. Lincoln established the principle that bayonets and lead overrule moldy scraps of parchment. The constitutions are trundled out when they do not threaten the status quo, but ignored when they get in the way of the agenda. Still, for common crime, they are better than what the rest of the world has.<br />
Our politicos DO uphold their oath to &#8220;support and defend&#8221; the constitution &#8211; it is supported on a pedestal and defended by bulletproof glass and armed guards.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Horn</title>
		<link>http://nationalgunrights.org/blog/?p=253&#038;cpage=2#comment-4070</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Horn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms does not - in my opinion - include explosives: i.e., bombs.  They were established to regulate those three areas, primarily when alcohol was illegal.  They are NOT equipt to investigate anything and are not meant to be supplimental police forces.  Shut them down.  Let the FBI do its work and get rid of the Boy Scouts from ATF who are getting in their way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms does not &#8211; in my opinion &#8211; include explosives: i.e., bombs.  They were established to regulate those three areas, primarily when alcohol was illegal.  They are NOT equipt to investigate anything and are not meant to be supplimental police forces.  Shut them down.  Let the FBI do its work and get rid of the Boy Scouts from ATF who are getting in their way.</p>
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		<title>By: Farron</title>
		<link>http://nationalgunrights.org/blog/?p=253&#038;cpage=2#comment-3657</link>
		<dc:creator>Farron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree dump the BATF the jack booted thugs and use the real police...FBI or local cops when something is a local issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree dump the BATF the jack booted thugs and use the real police&#8230;FBI or local cops when something is a local issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Boys</title>
		<link>http://nationalgunrights.org/blog/?p=253&#038;cpage=2#comment-3653</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Boys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama &amp; his Lemmings need a group of &quot;law enforcement&quot; people who know
how to and not to worry about the legality of what they do.  They lie
to the courts, police depts., etc. with no fear of being blamed if any
thing goes wrong.  &quot;Daddy Obama&quot; will step up and defend  his Lemmings
to make sure they will operate as his private police force.  At this 
point, they will act at Obama&#039;s direction.  

Just like ACORN doing exactly what Obama wants them to do.  Anyone who
thinks Obama isn&#039;t the CEO of ACORN is mistaken.  That&#039;s why they are 
still in business and will remain so!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama &amp; his Lemmings need a group of &#8220;law enforcement&#8221; people who know<br />
how to and not to worry about the legality of what they do.  They lie<br />
to the courts, police depts., etc. with no fear of being blamed if any<br />
thing goes wrong.  &#8220;Daddy Obama&#8221; will step up and defend  his Lemmings<br />
to make sure they will operate as his private police force.  At this<br />
point, they will act at Obama&#8217;s direction.  </p>
<p>Just like ACORN doing exactly what Obama wants them to do.  Anyone who<br />
thinks Obama isn&#8217;t the CEO of ACORN is mistaken.  That&#8217;s why they are<br />
still in business and will remain so!!</p>
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