Mayor opposed to guns and civil rights
Cedric Glover, Mayor of Shreveport Lousiana believes he and his jackbooted thugs state police have the authority to wantonly violate your civil rights.
Mayor Glover believes that his brownshits state police have authority to “suspend” your rights.
From the blog Pro Libertate:
Any time a motorist is stopped by a police officer, insists Shreveport, Louisiana Mayor Cedric Glover, “Your rights … have been suspended.” This includes not only the freedom of movement, but also, in the event the officer inquires as to whether the driver is carrying a weapon, “Your right to be able to hold on to your weapon and say whether [you] have a weapon or not” — as well as the right to retain possession of that weapon, should the officer decide to confiscate it from you.
Should you choose not to answer the question, or answer it in the negative, the officer could still choose, “in the interest of officer safety, to secure you in a safe position” — this most likely means outside the car with your hands cuffed behind your back — “and then do an appropriate inspection of your vehicle.”
The phrase “appropriate inspection” is more honestly rendered “Unconstitutional” warrantless search.”
Should the police officer then turn up a firearm or other weapon in the car, the driver “would be guilty or potentially guilty of even a more severe offense” than whatever he had allegedly done to precipitate the traffic stop, according to Mayor Glover. Police officers, according to Glover, are invested with “a power that the President of the United States does not have … and that is the ability to be able to suspend your rights.”
This is “one of the things that I say to each and every one of the police officers who graduates from the Shreveport Police Academy since I’ve been mayor.” Fortunately for the public, one supposes, Mr. Glover remembers the lesson that Peter Parker learned from his kindly and sagacious uncle Ben — that is, with great power comes great responsibility.”You have to understand there is a great deal of power that is vested within … the law enforcement personnel of this country,” Glover insists. “It’s why there is a great deal of responsibility that has to go along with it.”
Glover offered those remarkable observations, and many others like them, in a recorded phone call with Shreveport resident Robert Baillio
Mr. Baillio had called to complain about a recent traffic stop in which an SPD officer, who– before dealing with any other matter of business — asked if Baillio had a firearm, then temporarily seized it from him.
Louisiana law recognizes the right of the state’s residents to carry loaded weapons in their vehicles, and Baillio has a state-issued concealed carry permit — that is, a piece of paper in which the state generously recognizes one facet of Baillio’s innate right to bear arms.
According to Baillio’s account, he was cordial and polite when he was stopped after supposedly neglecting to use a turn signal. That this was almost certainly a pretext stop is illustrated by the fact that Baillio never received a ticket. Supplemental evidence is offered by the fact that the conversation between the officer and Baillio focused entirely on the issue of gun ownership, including a question about Baillio’s membership in the National Rifle Association.
Glover is a member of New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s Mayors Agaisnt Illegal Guns, however it looks like Glover is opposed to all guns.
You hear the entire audio of Mr. Baillio’s conversation with Mayor Glover here.
I think that we have, maybe, taken too much from one side of the story. With all that is going on in our country right now, how can we be so focused on an officer that disarmed an individual during a traffic stop. I can’t believe that his only basis for believing that the stop was not for the turn signal violation is that he did not get the ticket for it, is stupid to say the least. I think I would have shown some graditiude.
People that carry a loaded weapon should have the common since to know the law that regulates that license. I think that the right to carry a firearm is accompanied by the responsiblity to know the law that goes with it. The law is clear that the officer has the right to disarm while in contact with an individual and that if you are carrying a weapon the officer has the right to know that.
Look at the time spent on this, when the very real threat to our firearms OWNERSHIP is at stake. We shouldn’t be talking about an officer trying to stay alive in a time when that isn’t easy to do as a police officer. We should be focused on the true threat to our rights which is Washington D.C.
Let’s not worry about an officer taking a weapon from somebody while he is conducting a traffic stop, let’s worry about Washington taking our weapons away from everybody FOREVER.
I bought my first 2 guns this year because of some of the unconstitutional laws, and lawmen, that are being enforced lately. I don’t carry it with me, but I think if things like this continue, we may need to use them to protect our rights.
I must either go through the I-20 route or the I-40 route from Mississippi to Dallas, TX, when visiting my son. From now on I will use the I-40 route. No since in passing through a city run by Hitler wannabees.
Mayor Glover said that when someone is stopped by a police officer, their “rights are suspended”. This statement is crazy.
Our rights are never suspended; that’s why they are called, “rights”. What has happen here is that arrogant, power hungry, Liberals; use power, lies and intimidation to abuse our rights.
A typical response from a Marxist politician. They are afoot with their president nObama (or Neo, The One) to steal our republic, (note I didn’t say our democracy). Now they have been exposed their plan is to complete their takeover before we have a chance to replace them through our votes beginning in 2010. Van Jones, the presidents openly communist adviser, is gone publicly but, you can bet he is still welcome in cabinet meetings. What about the FCC Czar in love with Hugo Chavez? What about Sunsteen who wants to give lawyers the ability to sue animal owners on behalf of all animals whether pets or food supply? This rats nest must be sanitized! To accomplish there mission THEY MUST CONTROL THE POPULATION! THEY MUST CONFISCATE THE MOST EFFECTIVE MEANS THE PEOPLE HAVE TO RESIST THEIR COMMUNIST GOALS! THEY MUST TAKE OUR WEAPONS!
Wake up America and live as liberty loving people, continue to sleep and live as slaves.
Gov? Have you lost your frigging mind? With public servants like you, the people have a justifiable fear of the government. Do you think you are some kind of royalty or are you just a fool? Probably you are both. You are not fit to clean the toilets in the prison you will end up in.
Obama: and i quote “HE LIED”. And being a veteran I’m getting sick and tired of his Half-Assed salutes to his marine guard’s furnished him, and i believe he’s all rapped up in ACORN and the SEIU and there thugs. My guns will stay in my control until and i quote again until they pry it from my cold dead hand.
I am not a gun owner. But I recognize when right is right; just is just and together with that, the mechanizm for policial parties to align citizens with legal manipulation to bet them in line. Much the same way we wonder how the Naxis got the citizens of Germany to agree to allow their being taken over, precept by precept.
even in our Srructural PEST Control Act (in California) the licences professional inspector we hire to check for termites can NOT cite repairs and compliance workk which is repolred in the THIRD part of the form , if there is no REQUISITE INFESTATION, reported by the certificated/certified licencee/agent inspector in the first part of the form, OR, DAMAGE reported in the second part of the form! It’s called ‘DUE PROCESS’ Politician s and agents of law enforcement are under the strict limits and directives of similar REQUISITES. and PREREQUISITES. The officer is DULEY EMOWPERED ONLY As an agent in the lawful execution of the law, and in this situration, the police power of the CITY or STATE as executed by its agent is not not JUSTLY reqyured by failing to use the turn signalling device, since is is highly probable that the law initiating the use of turn signals is PROBABLY NOT IN THE C$RIMINAL CODE as cited by the MAYOR in defence of his city’s agent. i csn’t advise anyone how to pursue those who use public office to sheild disenfranshisement of our rights, but I can join the others on this page who see the obvious signs of the growing power of the socialist system. But be aware also that there is a very good side to all this! Soon after the signs of the false messiah, is the return of our lORD! it will be for thos who wait upon Him, a GOOD thinG!
It is unfortunate that some of your readers have to realize that not using your signal light is not against the law. Secondly, the officer never asked for his drivers license and registration which is the normal thing to do by all police departments in the nation. He was stopped because of the stickers on his card. This is obvious to the most unintelligent people on earth.
This mayor has to be from Louisiana because he wears his stupidity on his shirt. Our rights right now but may change with this administration, are never taken away by a police stop. This mayor needs to get educated on the constitution instead of his constitution.
Mayor Fat A$$, yet another place to avoid, Shreveport Louisiana. Didn’t know they had “special” rights down there. I guess when your the “Mayor” you can do whatever you want, to include breaking the laws your supposed to uphold! I’ll never spend a penny in that place!!
One little piece at a time. That’s how they intend to take our rights away. They, meaning politicians like this mayor know an all-out assault would be met with all-out resistance, so using regulations they intend to take our rights away.
“We’ve witnessed a fire sale of American liberties at bargain basement prices, in return for the false promise of more security… The America being designed right now won’t resemble the America we’ve been defending… The danger isn’t that Big Brother may storm the castle gates. The danger is that Americans don’t realize that he is already inside the castle walls.” — Wayne LaPierre
I too had my gun confiscated from me. I thought here in America that when you feared for your life you had the right to protect it and your family. An intruder was coming over my gate outside. I told him if he made another move toward me he had better know his maker. I shot out to the right of him – a warning shot and he took off. Then the Chambers County Deputies came and took my gun. They said I used “deadly force”
Go back and look at HISTORY: First the Nazi’s took all the firearms, from civilians. Then, one by one, human rights were taken away. Soon, the “undesirables”, were jammed into cattle cars, and taken to “relocation centers”, i.e. AUSCHWITZ. They were then taken to the GAS CHAMBERS, THEN THE OVENS. To the very end, there were those who really believed, they were being put in line for a “shower”. TAKE AWAY THE SECOND AMENDMENT, AND THEY CAN DO ANYTHING THEY WANT!! Just read the History Books, and speak with those, who survived!
I have never heard of such a thing! Is the mayor a dem or muslim? I would call my senator and representative to get to the bottom of such an outrage! Or go sit in their office untill I got some satisfaction. “Protect and serve” has been out the window for quite a long time now.
Elected officials like this Glover fellow is why WE have the right to vote !
But in his mind he is some kind of dictator ruling his very own little kingdom there in
Shreveport. I am sure that polite cop was only doing what he had been instructed to do and
it sounds like the locals in blue there have some reason to target him. From listening to the recording of the phone call I gather he owns a store and is vocal with his dissatisfaction with the police dept.
My advise is to try and fly under the radar, support his opponent in the next election and take the “bulls eyes” off his truck rear windshield. I am in the same kind of situation myself, a store owner and gun owner and vocal with my opinions and distrust with officials.
VOTE ! VOTE ! AND VOTE !
Encourage others to vote and get rid of those who would do as Hitlers manefesto suggests..
..not sure if the quote is accurate but the gist is “in order to control the people we must disarm them to remove their ability to oppose us”
The framers of the constitution understood this, that’s why they wanted us to have the right to keep and bear arms……..it’s not about hunting or defending our families, it is about having the ability to oppose a government that has gotten out of hand.
They fought a revolution over less than 5 % tax!!!!
I wonder what it will take to wake up Americans today. They keep telling us we have to give up this or that but in return they will “give” us something any fool should know is impossible to do.
Sorry to say that from where I sit the Hitlers and Obamas of the world are right about one thing, the bigger the lie,the bigger the smile, the louder you tell it, and the longer you tell it………..the masses are dumb enough to believe it………makes me really sick to watch.
I do not promote a full scale armed revolution (not yet anyway) but I do stand for my right and yours to be able to do just that should someone try to take our country or our rights from us. I do hope and dream of a day when we will wake up and see the lies for what they are and make a real change
Ok, I have listen to the conversation of this citizen and the mayor of Shreveport La. Here is my opinion on the whole matter. The citzen does under law have the right to bear arms and if he has a concealed weapon’s permit, yes he has the right to carry this weapon on his person. However the mayor is correct in saying that the police officer has the right to protect himself/herself, when he/she stops someone. The officer has the right to ask if you have a weapon or if he/she observes one in your vehicle has the right to contain this weapon for his/her safety.
If this is only a minor violation and the person has the legal right to carry this weapon by La. law then it should be returned to him after the situation has been resolved. This it appears by Mr. Ballino’s admission was what happened. There is no violation of his rights in this case.
The officer has the right to make the scene as secure as possible.
I was a police officer and a deputy sheriff for thirty years and agree with this. Now if the officer had not given Mr. Ballino his weapon back when the interview was concluded or Mr. Ballino had no legal right to carry this weapon concealed, then yes the officer would be correct to confiscate the weapon and charge him with carring a concealed weapon. In the state of Virginia you have the right to carry a weapon on your person IN PLAIN VIEW and not have a concealment permit, however if it is concealed you must be a law enforcement officer or an agent of the government or have a concealment permit. I do not pretend to know the law in La.
My objection with Glover is that he did not listen of Ballino completely he keep interupting him and interjecting his opinion before hearing all Mr. Ballino had to say.
As to Mayor Glover being a Marxist, I do not know him or his policies to mark him as one. What he said is true across the USA as far as I know. Any Police Officer for his/her safety may request if you have a weapon on you. He may if he feels it necessary search you and your vehicle for weapons. This is not a violation of your rights. However, he/she may not search your trunk or your engine compartment only the cab of your vehicle without a warrant. Should he/she arrest you, he/she has the right to do an inventory of the vehicle if he/she confiscates the vehicle, without a warrant. Beyond that he/she needs a search warrant to search the vehicle. What is found during this search is admissable in court.
Yes,by the way I do support gun rights and yes I do not like the way things are going on as to gun control. This case is not an example of improper handling of a gun law by the police officer. Mr Ballino’s weapon was returned to him that same day and was not confiscated.
My Gun’s are my protection against all who try to do harm to my family or myself!!. They will have to pry them from my cold dead hand’s!!….. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!.
My son was stopped in Shreveport ( he lives just outside the city limits) for driving into the pedestrian crossing when he stopped at a redlight. He works in the oilfield and drives a company truck with a Texas license. The officer kept calling him a Mexican ( my son is dark)but was born and reared in Louisiana as were most of his ancesters. They had a mad person to deal with and when this lad gets mad, watch out. But some of the police up there think they are the law, not enforcers of it.
And you still wonder why the citizens are afraid of the government? Governor of Louisiana, if you didn’t slap this fool, you must agree with him. I’d bring this “boy” to the governors mansion and take him out behind the woodshed! Welcome to Shreveport, set your watches to Central Nazi Time…….
Without guns our rights will be gone.
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To Mr. Bringazi,
I understand from your post on 11 September that you have been a police officer and a deputy sheriff for thirty years. I find that credible.
I have been a Citizen of the United States of America for 52 years.
The law enforcers of this country have a tough job to do. They must ply through a tangled mess of laws created by politicians who did not respect the rules of government as outlined in the Federal and State Constitutions when they wrote these laws. Does this mean that I should yield whenever an officer demands compliance with an unconstitutional law?
If the general public can understand phrases like “the people” and “shall not be infringed” and (in Mississippi) “shall not be called in to question”, then they may choose to stand up for their rights in some form or fashion. Understanding these simple phrases is the privilege and responsibility of the people and it is also the responsibility of the people to control their government. Yes, we should vote, vote, vote, in an effort to straighten out this mess but until the constitution itself is rewritten it is the ultimate law of the land as it stands.
I submit that blind compliance with the confusion of the law does not bode well for our Country.
Thank you,
HLB
Believe me when I say, these pages (blogs) are monitored. Big brother is watching everything “We the people” are doing. Paranoia… NO. Reality… YES!
So it begins. I expected this kind of activity from California or New York or someplace like that but not from Louisiana!
Washington D.C. no longer cares about the people of this country and unfortuantly that filters down to the state level as well. It’s sad to think that those who are supposed to “serve and protect” are mindless enough to believe the retoric that they are being preached.
“We the people” have some house cleaning to do and we will have to start with our own cities, counties, states and work our way up to the top level of our Government.
We must start with the fundamentals. “In God we trust” must be our base.
This kind of behavior from public servants is unacceptable!
I would say unbelievable, but tyranny like this is becoming more common place these days. I’ll be sure to forward this along to everyone/anyone I know with Louisiana heritage or family. I certainly won’t ever visit Shreveport. The people of Shreveport should impeach the mayor and fire his thugs!
P.S. The Second Amendment doesn’t give us the right to keep and bear arms. It only serves to secure our natural right (or God-given right) of self-defense against a government seeking to deny us that right.
The free possession of guns are a hallmark of a free society. What does the continuing persecution of gun owners tell you about ours?
When someone violates your Constitutional Rights, they should be reprimanded in some way. This will continue until these anti-gun kooks are punished in some way. Saying I’m sorry doesn’t satisfy the abuse of power. Maybe make them pay a fine of $100.00 or more.
This is just another example in the long list of people who let power and control go to their heads. The police department and anyone who admonishes this type of bullying behavior is wrongfully employed. Again we have an instance where the rightful man is punished while the criminal goes free. Convicts and terrorists have many more rights than the free man. This police dept. along with our current administration in Washington should be more concerned with protecting this country from those that really want to do us harm. I don’t think terrorists or criminals ride around w/flag and pro-gun decals on their cars. This is the type of “profiling” everyone should be concerned with! Cut funding to our military, missle defense, etc. etc., now who does that sound like!? They have it in the works to take guns from American citizens too. Stand strong America and let you voices be heard, especially when you VOTE!!
Reading many of the post concerning this “seemingly wrong stop of this officer” I can not help but believe that their is validity to the victim! We are in a time where even the word “militia” has been blown out of perspective by the “fringe media” and citizens need to be strong and call these people out! In the early days the militia was a needed for many good reasons, just like today people have a right to protect their communities, their families and of coarse properties! The 2nd amendment is part of out rights and “those” that want to do away with it are not part of the American way! They are what they are, they hate freedom and love complete control. They believe in a nanny state and think that they know best. Well anyone that knows just a minimum of history knows where “these people are taking this nation and they know that they can not win the argument so they being the racist that they are they call us racist. They are simple minded and very childish. That’s why “they” will dig as far as they can to find “dirt” on anyone who opposes there agenda! Please do not let there “neo” ways get in your crawl for they are like little children and can not think for themselves and should learn more – of the brilliance that our founders had when righting the “constitution” for they did fear the “almighty” had He blessed this nation with bounty. We need to go back to those roots and while your at it pass the ammo!
For those of us who travel the country much, we are aware that Louisianna is not noted for having an honest political or legal system with regards to the protections and care of it’s citizens. Many stories of illegal siezures of cars and property abound of the corrupt law enforcement agencies with in the states boundaries.
Washington DC is only second, to taking away your rights, to La. Good luck in getting any of your stolen (by the state of LA.) property back in it’s original condition, if ever at all.
These “officials” need to be retrained on Constitutional Law, voluntarily, or step down and seek other employment. If they refuse, then deport them…just get the hell out of my country….you don’t belong here…maybe Austrailia would be more suitable. These “Wyatt Earps” with a badge are in for a rude awakening.
I listened to the tape and came away with a clear conclusion… there is racial/political profiling here, which I’m fine with… proper statistics don’t lie, but profiling done for the purpose of safety and profiling done for the purpose of harassment are quite different. The interesting thing is that you don’t hear Baillio complain about it other than to say, “do you treat everyone you stop like this?”; it may be that Glover is hiding behind and manipulating sound policies adopted by law enforcement nationwide for the purpose of harassing guys like Baillio… sure, law enforcement has the right to disarm a citizen but for just cause… what was the just cause? Just cause when left to the officer’s judgement will always leave plenty of room for abuse including improper use of profiling. Here, you have an intelligent black man in Louisiana who is “playing by the rules” and depending on your political flavor is a serious threat or a hero. I, for one, consider the Mayor Glovers that are popping up around this country to be a serious threat to America for the very reasons he cited in his response to Baillio… “the power of law enforcement”… his failure to recognize the idea of “just cause” let alone the proper evaluation of just cause which is the basis for which policies like the one experienced here stand, illustrates the agenda of the mayor… to harass.
There is great sophistication in the concealment of agenda these days… beware!
The darkness hates the light. Folks must do what they can to expose what’s going on.
This mayor should be voted out ASAP I hope the poeple of Shreveport do exactly that……He is as anti-American as the Muslim terrorists who are on our soil plotting against us and, the traitors who protect them….Hope Mr. B sues.
Mayor Glover needs to step down from office. Hes there to protect not go against the laws.
If our guns are taken away we wqould not just lose are rights to bare arms for protection. It would be taking our food from our mouths. We live off the land when possible. We love deer, duck. We have a right to hunt our own food and to protect or land, home and family. Kennesaw Ga. Most all own guns a lot have them on them. Crime is very low and that town and in other towns like it. THis world is comming under socilism and all true blooded Americans need to stand up and tell them NO we will not stand for it.
I can very well empitize with this man, we have a Mayor here in Utica, NY that has join the Mayor on NYC Blumberg and the National anti-gun group and has lobbied the congress against national reciprosity of state Right-to-carry permits. What the hell has happened to American common sense and liberty? Well sir, if they want the guns of the American people, they will have a fight on their collect hands; because, the people will not stand for it under the Constitution. We need no one’s permission to carry and bear arms. . .Amen.
It is hard to believe that the officer & Mayor Gloverare in office.
It is my opinion that the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms was put into the constituion for the same reasons that existed when this country was founded. All of the tyrants do not live out side of the USA and they didn’t all die in the 17th century. In fact thru the lies and deception of Acorn a tyrant was elected to be our president.
The mayor needs to read the United State Constitution and understand he is not Hitler. If this policy is ever taken to a Federal Court this mayor will be shown how wrong he is. This is good information, I will never travel I-20 through Shreveport again.
When a police officer enforces unconstitutional laws, he is your enemy! Everyone who believes in the 2nd Amendment should have bumper stickers on their vehicles and be prepared to protect their rights. DO NOT ACCEPT THE EXCUSE THAT “I’M JUST DOING MY JOB” when any official steps over the line. It truely is us against them. Anyone who knows a cop personally, knows that they are as corrupt as any lawyer. And no I have never been arrested…just aware.
As a former police officer and a firm supporter of our 2nd amendment rights, I will never surrender my firearm to a police officer at a traffic stop (or elsewhere) for that matter. This is the very reason the 2nd amendment was established, to protect ourselves against unlawful search and seizure. Unfortunately, I know the ultimate outcome of any such confrontation. But then, so did Patrick Henry.
Guns ARE the way to enforce our rights! If we allow the government to take away our guns and/or gun rights, what power do we have against them? We then give the power to a select few to rule over the rest of us (tyranny). The founding fathers of this nation won freedom with GUNS! And they fought a less oppressive governmental system than we have today. There should be no laws restricting gun ownership, carrying guns concealed, etc. They violate this thing called the US Constitution!
This is exactly why we have the second amendment: to protect us from tyranny of the government. The police represent the government in this case. Perhaps he was one of those officers who went to one of the “fusion” indoctrination seminars that our Homeland Security started to track all of the “terrorist right-wingers” who have a bumper sticker on their vehicles. Did this officer not take an oath to protect and defend the constitution? Perhaps he and the mayor forgot about that one..or were day-dreaming when they were sworn in.
The officer had every right in this world to ask if the man had a gun, further, once the man admitted he had, the officer had every right in the world to take the weapon and place it away from the man who owned it. However, once the stop was over and the officer was ready to leave, the office had the responsibility by law to return the weapon to the owner on the spot. He did not have the right to take the man’s weapon for any period of time once the stop was complete. What he did, as reported, was a crime in any book in this United States of America and he should be removed from duty until he has demonstrated that he knows the real laws of America, not those imposed by the Mayor as policy. No policy from any person or official in the United States rises above the law. The law always prevails, especially over policy. I think this mayor would do his city a favor if he resigned from office and never ran from office again anywhere in this country including PTA President. He is also a disgrace to the rest of the countries mayor’s.
i think the mayor should step down and they need to get rid of the officer that carried that out .Sounds to me like a person grudge he had against him,,but if its the law there and he had the papers to carry a weapon,the officer is in the wrong..and he only stopped him for a signal light.i understand…..they need a house cleaning there in that state maybe…i just know what i read.and been posted
Just another example of the confusion that besets most of our “ruling elite.” Unlike our founders, they are under the impression that they grant us our rights. No – the Constitution recognizes rights that we as citizens have, and then puts constraints on the government to make sure that it does not infringe upon those rights.
In their minds “I giveth, and I can taketh away.” We need to – frequently and loudly – remind them that we do not have a royal caste in this country. They are not rulers.
Patriots, Citizens of The United States of America
The time to Petition Our Greivances with Our Corrupt Politicians in Office that we Gave that Power to, We Need to Apply Pressure on Them and not give them any air to breathe, we need to keep putting pressure on them, bombard them with everything we have, on a daily basis.
I am tired of All Our Petitions being ignored, and I’m sure Most of All The Patriots out there that keep The Constitution to Heart To Preserve and Restore Our Republic will keep Applying pressure.
I am tired that American Citizens get stepped on Everyday, These Corrupt Officils raised their right hand and were sworn in To Obide by the Constitution, Let’s start holding them Accountable to their Oaths!
Promise them that they will get a kick in the Ass when re-election comes , and it’s coming really soon…
You Want My Guns? Come and take them from My Dead Cold Hand!
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We Out Number Them A Million To One!
As a licsensed carrier and also licsenced FFL dealer when stopped by an officer of the law it is your responiblity to have your DL and handgun permit out and both hands on the steering wheel when the officer reaches the car. that way ther are no supprises and answer his questions when asked.
Sorry Rick, no can do.
HLB